Kentucky Area Paranormal Society

[GrimReaper]

David and myself are delving into some EVP research and wanted to know if anyone has any solid facts on EVP's, example certain audio frequencies, times more prevelant than others, etc. Any info or thoughts on EVP's would be greatly appreciated. We are hopefully going to try some things at Waverly and other places.

[alfreddajero]

you have a good recorder for getting evp's, the sampling freq on the olympus is way better then some, when you download the audio using the driver check to make sure that the program is not resampling the audio.

[GrimReaper]

I am trying to locate a good frequency analyzer to see what frequency the voice is at. I have used the one on Adobe Audition, its ok, but nothing to write home about. I am looking for one with a digital readout.

[Emania_Chuck]

If you're patient, you can use the Analysis->Plot Spectrum function in Audacity to try to find the key frequencies. From there, you can use Effect->FFT Filter to selectively bring out those frequency ranges and suppress the rest.

[Emania_Chuck]

I did some more searching and found a page full of shareware applications that might help...there are even some that can generate pink and white noise.

http://fft.alienpicks.com/

Frequency analyzer (http://frequency-analyzer.reliable-software.alienpicks.com/) appears to be promising, and free.

[Badhornet]

I am huge into EVP's and have been into it for years. There is no really a time more prevelant for them...Ive caught them day and night. Ive tried and logged so many different ways of catching them. Residuals are easy those you just pick up. Its the "intellectual" ones that facinate me. I have no doubt the tone you use is everything. Ive gone into places and asked the regular questions you would ask and get nothing, and yet return to the same area a little later and would have a more sympathetic or caring tone and pick up stuff. It's like they know if your being genuine or not. Instead of walking in a room and standing there and rambling off questions, walk in with a chair or sit down on the floor and have a look to you like your showing concern (but real concern). To me its about motivation. If a spirit wants to convey something, they will just do it without much effort. It's the ones that you can motivate to answer you, where you usually get good stuff. I dont know much about the different frequencies or the technology aspect of it, I just know about the human aspect of it and the results I get from it. Just my two cents.......

[Phantom]

Really good stuff, guys. Thanks!! Also, no matter how "out there" it is, we'd like to hear some of the theories that you have so that we can possibly test them.

[JeremyW]

so! again, haven't been on here much in recent days, but im still alive.

I was reading this thread, and I know you're looking for corroborated reports regarding EVP... but something kinda popped in my head. Going back to what BadHornet was talking about with the mindset of the investigator for collecting EVP, and thinking a little bit about my own experiences... Not too often do I get an EVP when I am not physicially in the same room as the recorder. I haven't dealt with too many residual-type hauntings, but often if I recall correctly, you still get EVP perhaps just as often when you aren't present as I mentioned before.

So, concluding that intelligent entities react more positively to people, and residual-type entities react neutrally... we ask the question why? I've got an idea... now one specific EVP that always stuck out in my head... one of my former investigators was manning the camcorder when I asked him to move to another side of the room. He walked into the corner of a dresser, pretty hard, which was quite amusing. I laughed, and thats all the was said. I was recording audio and collected an EVP that, probably class B, that said 'You'll hurt yourself' in a somewhat mocking tone.

NOW, what I'm thinking, going back to my theories that spirits hardly sense us in a physical aspect, more towards what our mindsets and moods are portraying. So why did this entity seem to see or at least understand what I had just seen at the same time, IF, they generally can't accomplish that. My new idea I've got to do a little pondering on with the help of you all is that entities, in regards to EVP, may in fact feed off of our own senses in order to communicate the ideas they want. Somehow they can detect our reactions, feelings, sensations... or perhaps even non-intrusively see through our own eyes in some way.

TESTING: with this thought... what I'd like to do sometime (most likely will happen at waverly) is to go into a room, sit down on the floor, and blindfold myself and plug my ears (scary concept, I know). What I would expect to happen if my Hypothesis is correct, to collect EVP that reflect how my senses are dampend... so the EVP would exhibit characteristics of being lost, confused, perhaps even mislead, etc...

The other thing that might happen is I get nothing at all... which is going to be hard to determine if the experiment's controls had anything to do with the lack of EVP, or if no one felt like talking at the time.

So, thats my brain's thought for the night.

[Phantom]

Not a bad theory, Jeremy. Although I would be highly anxious if I sat blindfolded and ears plugged at Waverly...LOL I think I'll let you try it instead.

[GrimReaper]

He is a brave soul

[stoner]

what I'd like to do sometime (most likely will happen at waverly) is to go into a room, sit down on the floor, and blindfold myself and plug my ears (scary concept, I know). What I would expect to happen if my Hypothesis is correct, to collect EVP that reflect how my senses are dampend... so the EVP would exhibit characteristics of being lost, confused, perhaps even mislead, etc...

The other thing that might happen is I get nothing at all... which is going to be hard to determine if the experiment's controls had anything to do with the lack of EVP, or if no one felt like talking at the time.

So, thats my brain's thought for the night.

I've never come across this opinion before, very good idea Jeremy, sounds like as good an experiment / theory as any

[JeremyW]

Something else, too... that kind of leads me more in this very odd thinking... There ARE in fact EVPs that sound completely normal played both forward and reverse. I had heard about it, but I'd never seen a good example. So... tonight I was bored and going through some of KPI's EVPs they have (and they have a bunch of good ones). I came across the one you can find on the page as 'I feel human'.

(http://kypinvestigations.tripod.com/feelhuman.mp3)

I listened to it, and I thought the wording and timing sounded somewhat, strange... so I decided to play it in reverse. HOLY crap. So, listening to that it sounded even better than forward, but they both sounded clear enough to where I could make out what it was saying. So, from what I gathered on the reverse, I heard 'Nobody bleeds'.

So, if this is something I'm going to accept as a reality of the instance during the recording... it puts a whole new perspective on EVP collection. What we can record in a linear fashion with audio, actually can contain messages in both directions. I'm thinking of an audio track being pretty limited, more or less two dimensional in time, you have forward and backward/reverse. SO, entities can capitolize on both dimensions, as apposed to ourselves with just the forward one (I haven't met anyone that can hear something played in two directions in their head).

Also, I know alot of EVPs seem to be really fast, and if slowed down between 25 and 50 percent, sound more normal, as if someone had said them in the context of the message. My guess, maybe some 10 percent that I've collected have behaved that way. So this weird issue with time and dimensions it seems is not a constant, and is rarer than the normal EVP collection of straightforward. This all means... what? Man, I kind of, feel like I could understand it... but its out of reach. I think its one of those things that if we just 'knew', that it would make perfect sense. BUT since we don't, it seems completely inexplicable.

TANGENT TIME:

Anytime I think about EVP I can't help but think of random event generators... its worth doing some reading in. Here's a recent article I found outlining basically what they are and what they might be able to do.

http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=252